Talk:Sunder Anything (3.5e Optimized Character Build)

Are you sure you can really get up to x6 or x9? I had thought the SRD multiplication rule prevented what I think you're doing here.--75.175.48.188 00:47, 20 November 2007 (MST)

The SRD does have such a rule. Here's how it breaks out:

Power Attack Damage Ratios

Feat/Ability	1-Handed	2-Handed
Power Attack	1:1	2:1
Combat Brute	3:2	3:1
Leap Attack	2:1	4:1
Leaping Brute Attack!™	5:2	5:1
Improved PA	3:2	3:1
Improved CB	2:1	4:1
Improved LA	5:2	5:1
Improved LBA!™	3:1	6:1
Supreme PA	2:1	4:1
Supreme CB	5:2	5:1
Supreme LA	3:1	6:1
Supreme Leaping Brute Attack!™	7:2	7:1

Just for fun, I included the frenzied berzerker's (Complete Warrior) improved power attack and supreme power attack. Also, it's worth noting that there is errata concerning Leap Attack and errata concerning improved and supreme power attack. —Sledged (talk) 10:10, 27 November 2007 (MST)

The errata on Leap Attack is +200% damage,* so it takes whatever the "in" side is and doubles it as per real math (3:1 becomes 6:1, etc). I'm not familiar with the stacking listed above, but if that's the official ruling on the stacking then go for it. x7 is still a formidable number (my original math for this build equaled out to x12 before I looked at the stacking properly and brought it back down to the "reasonable" listed x6/x9). Power Attack'ing with this math for a -7 attack grants you [W]+49 damage or enough to force a Save Against Massive Damage.

*This is probably where your math is faulty. Now that I think about it. Improved PA = 3:1 Imp Combat Brute = 4:1, Leap Attack doubles those (per errata) to 6:1 and 8:1 respectively. Still, like I said, a x7 isn't BAD. -- Draco18s 72.78.216.41 19:02, 11 October 2008 (MDT)

The exact text from the errata is:

the key phrase is "+100% the normal bonus damage from your use of the Power Attack feat." The increases to the bonus due to Combat Brute and IPA/SPA are not from the normal use of Power Attack. Normal use of Power Attack is 1:1 one-handed and 2:1 two-handed regardless of how much other feats and abilities increase it. —Sledged (talk) 15:59, 13 October 2008 (MDT)

This. 'Nuff said. --Ghostwheel 10:51, 24 July 2009 (MDT)

Whats up with Cheese???--Ryan B. 18:45, 14 March 2008 (MDT)

It's tasty, greasy, and if left out to sit for too long it starts stinking. Munchkin builds are much the same (and some of them start stinking sooner than others; ex. Pun-Pun is all fine and good until you start aging him in a campaign). -- Draco18s 72.78.216.41 19:05, 11 October 2008 (MDT)

is there a major bloodline for frost giant? I don't see one in UA